All of this happened pre-pandemic, and I can't think of another time where this would be even more relevant than it was in that moment in time. I did not expect for that to be the case. Rick and I have chatted several times, even on our own outside of Science in Vivo after this and we touched on a lot of this event really, I thought, helped bring us together around these certain philosophies. I still think about the time I spent in that space as one of the best integrated sciency community engagement events that I've seen in a way that felt super culturally sensitive. And I think was hitting on all of the right points and bringing up all of the gaps that we've always known existed, but being able to articulate those specifically was really powerful and hearing how Dottie and the other women who were part of this community were sharing their views on things and just reflecting on what they had to say and then also thinking about that in our new context that we are experiencing in 2021, was very powerful.