And I feel really fortunate that I was paired with another observer, who's an expert in the field. We were able to play off, we had really different sets of eyes, I think, on it, and learned a lot from each other, both in the moment when we were talking, but also afterwards, when we were typing up our notes together in the followup. I think that part of it, was really a great experience, which I definitely got a lot out of that. And I think, our ability to think through what was going on, was really enhanced by that, that we had really different previous experiences, I guess, in different ways of engaging with the event.