it was very anxiety inducing, to find out, that not only am I participating in a new program at the convention, but we're going to have to two people who I don't, know and have great credentials, fly into to observe what I was doing. Like I said, it was a little anxiety inducing, but ultimately, I found the experience incredibly rewarding. I don't often get to converse with peers in the field, at the level of Paul's, and Bart's experiences, and credentials. and whatnot. I found it incredibly enlightening. Obviously, they brought a completely outside perspective of it.